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Post by fordmakesnosense on Dec 2, 2010 8:45:44 GMT -5
merry christmas retirees us active employees get jack squat
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Post by Stone Cold on Dec 2, 2010 12:50:38 GMT -5
merry christmas retirees us active employees get jack squat Damn,I thought it was a " lump-sum cost of living bonus".At least,that's what it says in the contract. Regardless,I'm thankful to get it. |
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Post by fordmakesnosense on Dec 2, 2010 13:34:51 GMT -5
as you should be........but alot of us active employees would be thankful to get something also.
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Post by axleman on Dec 2, 2010 13:41:18 GMT -5
merry christmas retirees us active employees get jack squat Damn,I thought it was a " lump-sum cost of living bonus".At least,that's what it says in the contract. Regardless,I'm thankful to get it. I hope you retirees appreciate all we've given up over the years in pay raises to pay for your ins. etc. I'm sure the $15.00 a hr wonders will be more than happy to do the same for us!! LOL |
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Post by Stone Cold on Dec 2, 2010 15:58:49 GMT -5
Appreciate what you given up for us ?You ungrateful jerks! What about all the retirees have done for you.The pay,holidays,benefits,etc are from the sweat and blood of the workers before you!Not Ford Motor Company generosity.Union brothers, what a freaking joke.You can kiss my ASS !!!!!!
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Post by bryano on Dec 2, 2010 16:11:36 GMT -5
I belive it is a lump sum cola bonus, not a xmas bonus. It just comes at xmas. Not all are ungrateful jerks and we do appreciate what was earned for us. Thanks for your time. My Dad retired after working for 38 years. Good luck and Merry Christmas.
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Post by ktpgal89 on Dec 2, 2010 16:42:48 GMT -5
If it were not for the retirees we wold not have half the benefits we have now!! My dad was on strike till after Thanksgiving '69, in '76 and several other times before that..how many strikes have you been on?? All that was to get us where we are now..how many of you would strike like that for your union? We had $35 a week for our family of 5...even back then that barely bought groceries and gas so please don't tell me how much active people have given up!! Retirees are the backbone of the UAW!!!
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Post by fordmakesnosense on Dec 2, 2010 16:44:52 GMT -5
im not meaning to sound ungrateful,because i am grateful for people who sweated and put in hard work,and im grateful for the job i have,but when you see people getting lump sum payments,or bonuses or whatever especially at christmas and us that are still out here sweating aint getting nothing to help pay for our christmas well its kind of a bitter pill especially when you see ford reporting record profits so chill a little
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Post by ktpgal89 on Dec 2, 2010 16:55:36 GMT -5
im not meaning to sound ungrateful,because i am grateful for people who sweated and put in hard work,and im grateful for the job i have,but when you see people getting lump sum payments,or bonuses or whatever especially at christmas and us that are still out here sweating aint getting nothing to help pay for our christmas well its kind of a bitter pill especially when you see ford reporting record profits so chill a little It was not directed towards you, but the ones who say active people have given up so much for the retirees. I would love to have my bonus back especially since Ford is doing to well..it is only fair, but don't begrudge the retirees. |
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Post by watchmen on Dec 2, 2010 17:06:27 GMT -5
im not meaning to sound ungrateful,because i am grateful for people who sweated and put in hard work,and im grateful for the job i have,but when you see people getting lump sum payments,or bonuses or whatever especially at christmas and us that are still out here sweating aint getting nothing to help pay for our christmas well its kind of a bitter pill especially when you see ford reporting record profits so chill a little It was not directed towards you, but the ones who say active people have given up so much for the retirees. I would love to have my bonus back especially since Ford is doing to well..it is only fair, but don't begrudge the retirees. Naw....Stone Cold is right... He is still a ungrateful jerk |
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Post by fordmakesnosense on Dec 2, 2010 17:20:47 GMT -5
let me get this straight im being called an ungrateful jerk when i just stated i appreciated what retirees have done........................yet i would be thankful to get my xmas bonus back that i gave up even though ford reported record profits?  ???something sure is wrong with this picture if you ask me |
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Post by ktpfordsparky on Dec 2, 2010 18:27:08 GMT -5
Thank you Retiree's for your service, I'm forever grateful; and I'd better be if I want Christmas dinner and presents at Dad's.  Seriously, the Retiree's health care prescription costs continue to rise; I know $700 isn't much but I hope it helps! |
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Post by marcus on Dec 2, 2010 19:10:43 GMT -5
Yep we should get something to.We better get a Killer profit check.
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Post by axleman on Dec 3, 2010 6:38:39 GMT -5
Appreciate what you given up for us ?You ungrateful jerks! What about all the retirees have done for you.The pay,holidays,benefits,etc are from the sweat and blood of the workers before you!Not Ford Motor Company generosity.Union brothers, what a freaking joke.You can kiss my ASS !!!!!! I guess I should have tried to make my point without the sarcasm. Let me try again. First of all The people before us have my thanks for the benefits we have left. However we have had to give up alot over the years to keep our retirees benefits. Given part of our cost of living increases to keep their insurance benefits.(money from COLA given up over a 20+ year work life is a good bit of money) Thats fine but what about when we retire? Will the $15.00 an hr people be so inclined to that care of us? Thats my point! Not trying to disrespect anyone, So chill out Stonecold and enjoy you retirement. |
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Post by Mr Happy on Dec 3, 2010 7:09:15 GMT -5
Even with what we have gave the retiree's havent "kept what they have".....they have been cut hard also in their benefits, you should do a little research before making such stupid statements.
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Post by axleman on Dec 3, 2010 9:04:46 GMT -5
Even with what we have gave the retiree's havent "kept what they have".....they have been cut hard also in their benefits, you should do a little research before making such stupid statements. Stupid statements? Everyone has lost benefits! The people who come after us working for half the pay won't be so enthusiastic about supporting retirees who made double their income. How is this a stupid statement. Just would like to know other peoples opinion on this subject. This will be our (active employees) future. Just something to think about. |
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 3, 2010 9:27:29 GMT -5
merry christmas retirees us active employees get jack squat It is difficult to know someones intentions when they make a post. To me it seemed the OP was mad about someone else recieving something that they were entitled to. I have no way of knowing the posters true feelings though. In my opinion the retirees deserve everything they can get, they are at the mercy of the company and union and have almost no say as to what happens in thier futures. They have been on our side of the fence, they have experienced all the goods and bads working for Ford has to offer. Yet none of us knows thier side, we are still working, unsure of what retirement will be like in our future. A big Thank You, to Stonecold and all the other retirees before us that worked hard and made sacrifices during thier time here at Ford to allow us to continue to make the great wages and benefits we do. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Dec 3, 2010 16:03:54 GMT -5
I will be forever grateful to the retirees...and I will continue to vote NO against any and all cuts targeting the retirees.
I can't wait to be one...
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Post by fordmakesnosense on Dec 3, 2010 16:29:38 GMT -5
my intentions was not to disrespect any retirees,i think they deserve a xmas bonus as well as a cola,but didnt the cost of living go up just as much for us active employees......and yea i know the retirees work hard to get alot of the benefits we have...........i also know that we have given up alot of what they worked hard to get and we seem to continue to give up more yet i see record profits posted......if any retirees think i dont appreciate what they did then they misunderstood what i was trying to say
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Post by nvsked1 on Dec 3, 2010 18:47:07 GMT -5
my intentions was not to disrespect any retirees,i think they deserve a xmas bonus as well as a cola,but didnt the cost of living go up just as much for us active employees......and yea i know the retirees work hard to get alot of the benefits we have...........i also know that we have given up alot of what they worked hard to get and we seem to continue to give up more yet i see record profits posted......if any retirees think i dont appreciate what they did then they misunderstood what i was trying to say Yes we all gave...But don't mess with Retirees we all hope to get there one day... you have explained your comments so ok To all the retirees out there have a long HEALTHY happy retirement.... Collect all that SS you can ....you've earned it Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night |
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Post by bryano on Dec 3, 2010 18:49:58 GMT -5
You need to realize that when some of these guys retired several years ago, it was at a much lower payscale than what they get now. This lump sum bonus is needed by them to help out with bills. They haven't gotten raises over the years.
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Post by TonyV on Dec 3, 2010 22:03:15 GMT -5
I think everyone needs to realize that ALL hourly (Retired and active alike) are linked arm in arm as they should be. We are ALL UNION MEMBERS! Whether it is on the floor or on this forum, I cannot/will not tolerate infighting. It only adds to Detroit's smile.
As far as the retired - Thank you for your service!
As far as the active hourly - It is time for us to fight our own battles. This will happen next year at contract time. Let us all stand together as one. That is supposed to be the definition of a union.
...and as far as Christmas is concerned - May we all remember what the season is truly about. That is God giving this Earth his only son to help save our souls. Let us use this season to think about helping one another and others less fortunate.
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Post by jgt150ktp on Dec 5, 2010 20:08:41 GMT -5
we gave up an awlul lot as well as the retirees. as far as us active employees retirring? we can forget that idea we"ll die there we"ll never be able to retire and thats because we'll have to continue working to prop up the soc. sec of everyone else is does get to retire. enjoy bustin your asses for the next 40 to 50 years. I can see us now chasin down repairs with our walkers with saddle bags carryin our tools as we go. LMAO. |
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Post by Scott Kuhn on Dec 6, 2010 2:48:37 GMT -5
You know I get tired of people downgrading our retires. Yeah we gave up a lot on the last contract. However it was the retires who fought for everything we gave up. Now that Ford is making BIG PROFITS each Quarter, it's time for us to stand up and fight for what we gave up and also take care of our retires. We stood up to Ford when they tried to take away our strike vote. Lets stand together one more time as a Union and show Ford that we can accomplish anything that we set our minds too. To all the people who are crying about that Christmas Bonus maybe you should of invested in Ford Stock. I know I did and believe me It's paid off a whole lot more than that Christmas Bonus they took away.
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Post by ktpelec on Dec 6, 2010 9:10:47 GMT -5
During the next decade the U.S. will see the number of people at retirement age double.....
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Post by richatktp1 on Dec 17, 2010 3:28:43 GMT -5
During the next decade the U.S. will see the number of people at retirement age double..... Thats going to be alot of ALPO. I'm buying that stock now. |
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Post by santa on Dec 17, 2010 8:19:55 GMT -5
Read page 663 in Volume 4. It explains the retiree lump sum bonus. It has nothing to do with the active workers period.
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Post by itsnotmyjob on Dec 17, 2010 14:11:01 GMT -5
I agree Scott I got some stock and making alot more then a lil old 300 dollars.....its just so sad ppl just don't get it....we wouldnt have half of what we have now if not for our retirees!!
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Post by gantt34 on Dec 23, 2019 9:09:25 GMT -5
If this is true when will we get this 700.00 JOG
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Post by saugerman on Dec 23, 2019 10:06:14 GMT -5
I would like to thank the retirees for all the hard work and the sacrifices they and their families have given throughout their time at the hellhole we call KTP. If it wasn't for you; I wouldn't of ever had the chance to provide for my family the way they have been. You kept going through the good and bad times while putting your bodies through pain and hardships most cannot nor will ever understand.
I wish you and yours a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
You are our brothers and sisters in arms though we have never met.
We at KTP and LAP owe you a debt we can never repay!
Thank you
Saugerman
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