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Post by badcat555 on Jan 26, 2011 15:19:21 GMT -5
Are they starting to survey to go back to LAP?
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Post by PUNISHER on Jan 26, 2011 15:41:45 GMT -5
nope
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Post by TonyV on Jan 26, 2011 15:49:08 GMT -5
Yes they did! They did a interest survey today on dayshift in SUV trim. I am on line 4 and they surveyed the whole line.
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Post by EStotts on Jan 26, 2011 16:12:16 GMT -5
Yeah, they are surveying. They say it is just so they can get an idea of the numbers of people who might be leaving. I decided to tell them the opposite of what I was thinking just for the hell of it.
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Post by rockyt on Jan 26, 2011 16:24:35 GMT -5
I heard they also surveyed on the engine line and were telling them that if they wanted to the could go on a voluntary layoff beginning March 1st.
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Post by msonelove on Jan 26, 2011 17:41:45 GMT -5
They did a survey of skilled trades at KCAP about a week ago, not sure about production
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Post by TonyV on Jan 26, 2011 18:01:32 GMT -5
They are supposed to survey KCAP for following product prior to surveying RTBU's at CAP and KTP according to the master agreement. If this is for a voluntary layoff, am I to assume they want us to go out on ILO?!!!!
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Post by kessinger on Jan 26, 2011 18:20:10 GMT -5
Tony,
If the newspaper is correct and the name changed from escape to whatever that other name was, then its very possible KCAP can't follow the product. That is how they screwed our Atlanta brothers and sisters calling it the 500 for a year.
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jan 26, 2011 19:52:01 GMT -5
Lets see....KTP wants to get rid of about 200 ppl...survey to go back to LAP...put them on layoff until after retool...problem solved.
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Post by rclap on Jan 26, 2011 20:09:55 GMT -5
Lets see....KTP wants to get rid of about 200 ppl...survey to go back to LAP...put them on layoff until after retool...problem solved. Would that be considered ILO or TLO? I wouldn't mind an extended vacation if I could draw unemployment and sub the whole time. |
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Post by TonyV on Jan 26, 2011 20:11:41 GMT -5
Tony, If the newspaper is correct and the name changed from escape to whatever that other name was, then its very possible KCAP can't follow the product. That is how they screwed our Atlanta brothers and sisters calling it the 500 for a year. The named product for LAP is the "Escape". KCAP will be able to follow their product. The 500 was changed afterward and it was a bunch of crap. The 'concept' vehicle may or may not be the Escape. But KCAP can follow their product because of the announcement of LAP producing the Escape.(I do not expect many to come due to their announcement, however.) |
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Post by Shrek on Jan 27, 2011 3:02:14 GMT -5
Tonight on Night shift there was no survey done but of course things were quiet lively after 1st break! I guess when we go back they will survey Night shift.  |
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Post by PUNISHER on Jan 27, 2011 9:20:09 GMT -5
received a phone call today...ktp asking if i want to return to lap...said they just want to get an estimate of how many want to return....said there is plenty of time to make your decision
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Post by cam716 on Jan 27, 2011 10:12:16 GMT -5
we are on TLO with ui and sub!!! look for 1 job a week due to being off more then 90 days..
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Post by rclap on Jan 27, 2011 11:49:10 GMT -5
we are on TLO with ui and sub!!! look for 1 job a week due to being off more then 90 days.. What is the estimated start up date for LAP after the retool? |
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Post by TonyV on Jan 27, 2011 11:50:36 GMT -5
September/October right now.......
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Post by TonyV on Jan 27, 2011 12:29:35 GMT -5
Question for Kessinger: If KCAP is not going to be surveyed 1st for LAP re-opening with the Escape(Which they can follow):
Then why were MTP employees surveyed and brought into KTP prior to 862 members from LAP? They were following their product in the Expedition/Navigator. Why did LAP emloyees not get surveyed first? Why were LAP employees laid off until the 24 MTP employees or so were on KTP rolls?
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Post by kentucky250s on Jan 27, 2011 12:39:11 GMT -5
Will Ktp employees have the chance to go to Lap even though KTP is are home plant ,if not why not since for a lack of words we are one local when they choose to say we are........
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Post by rclap on Jan 27, 2011 13:28:53 GMT -5
we are on TLO with ui and sub!!! look for 1 job a week due to being off more then 90 days.. Hey cam716, I have a question about guidelines when looking for work while on TLO. Do you only have to accept a job if the pay is close to what you make at Ford? Anything else I may need to know? Is everything done over the phone/internet? Thanks for the info. |
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Post by moelap on Jan 27, 2011 13:31:34 GMT -5
Bring it on...HOME SWEET HOME
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Post by jmudd on Jan 27, 2011 13:38:28 GMT -5
im ready to leave this hell hole ill take that lay off just get me outta here
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Post by Jr on Jan 27, 2011 13:55:45 GMT -5
im ready to leave this hell hole ill take that lay off just get me outta here LOL I don't know you but I told the People I know that before they Left. |
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Post by ScottR@KTP on Jan 27, 2011 14:59:35 GMT -5
I'm staying put...I LOVE KTP!
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Post by Jr on Jan 27, 2011 15:23:08 GMT -5
lol
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Post by lappaintql on Jan 27, 2011 15:37:14 GMT -5
Will Ktp employees have the chance to go to Lap even though KTP is are home plant ,if not why not since for a lack of words we are one local when they choose to say we are........ No, even though its the same union your home plant is KTP. |
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Post by TonyV on Jan 27, 2011 15:50:35 GMT -5
Not necessarily true. If any one is laid off in our local from KTP and a job posting goes up for LAP - they would be on the combined in-zone preferential placement list.
Volume 1, - page 219, under step 2
It reads:
STEP 2 COMBINED IN-ZONE PREFERENTIAL
PLACEMENT LIST
– In-Zone Posting Process
• Protected Status Employees (Including
those who have exhausted
48 weeks of layoff are now back in
Protected Status under the code
VRLP)
• Employees on Indefinite Layoff
• Active Employees at locations with
employees in Protected Status or
on Indefinite Layoff
– Closed Plant Return To Area
– Mandatory Placement
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Post by lewis on Jan 27, 2011 23:31:22 GMT -5
I'm staying put...I LOVE KTP! Well you enjoy your last 12 yrs at KTP and I'll enjoy my last 13 yrs at LAP!! |
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Post by marcus on Jan 27, 2011 23:43:53 GMT -5
I dont mind KTP to much.I feel lap will turn into the samething soon.So dont matter what plant you work at.I just want an extra bullit in my gun thats only reason im staying.
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Post by PUNISHER on Jan 28, 2011 15:37:04 GMT -5
lap wants everyone back around september but won't actually be running units til january
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Post by moelap on Jan 28, 2011 15:49:07 GMT -5
Just my opinion....If you have a good job chances are you will stay....but if you work in U-trim a.k.a HELL you will leave as soon as possible!!!!!
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