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Post by cobra8 on Dec 7, 2020 18:53:42 GMT -5
A lot of people I have talked at work and else where are not to hip on getting the shots. Wonder what Fords stance will be. From CNBC www.cnbc.com/2020/12/07/covid-vaccine-update-your-boss-can-fire-you-if-you-refuse-the-coronavirus-shot.html HIGHLIGHTS “Under the law, an employer can force an employee to get vaccinated, and if they don’t, fire them,” said Rogge Dunn, a Dallas labor and employment attorney. Roughly four in ten Americans say they would “definitely” or “probably” not get a vaccine, according to a recent survey There are, however, a few notable exceptions to this kind of blanket requirement. If a work force is unionized, the collective bargaining agreement may require negotiating with the union before mandating a vaccine. to achieve herd immunity, experts say that about 70% of the population needs to be vaccinated or have natural antibodies. |
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Post by nra4life on Dec 7, 2020 19:39:31 GMT -5
They will be offering cash payments to take the shot, being discussed at this moment. I won’t be taking it, fire me if they must. I have 2 years left I’m not being experimented on. F em
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 8, 2020 8:35:07 GMT -5
I’ll take it for 5000$ cash
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Post by beenaround on Dec 8, 2020 19:32:47 GMT -5
Only if it is non-taxable$$$$$$$
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 9, 2020 5:19:29 GMT -5
Just read an article that stated a employer CAN require employees to get Covid vaccine.Religious beliefs and UNION contract is only exception.You Cant make this shit up.
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Post by nra4life on Dec 9, 2020 7:42:13 GMT -5
Just read an article that stated a employer CAN require employees to get Covid vaccine.Religious beliefs and UNION contract is only exception.You Cant make this shit up. I wish them luck with that. Once they mandatory it they are then liable as it is considered a condition of employment, would be then carried under workman comp laws if you should have issues with it. I still won’t take it, 2 years left, not being used as an experiment. Push comes to shove I just retire early. Stay safe people |
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Post by thisplacesux on Dec 9, 2020 8:45:34 GMT -5
It’s against my religion!
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Post by agslater on Dec 9, 2020 19:08:45 GMT -5
Why is everyone so scared? Look at all the other vaccines. They work. Only way to get these masks off.
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Post by beenaround on Dec 9, 2020 19:39:41 GMT -5
Why do I need a a shot when I have a 99.7% chance of survival if I do happen to get it. The vaccine is not guaranteed that you won't get it. Just like the flu vaccine vaccine that has been out for 70 plus years and is only 40-60% effective. Also all of a sudden a vaccine can be 90% effective after just 10 months of working on it? Why isn't the flu shot that good after 70 years?
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Post by agslater on Dec 9, 2020 23:20:12 GMT -5
Why do I need a a shot when I have a 99.7% chance of survival if I do happen to get it. The vaccine is not guaranteed that you won't get it. Just like the flu vaccine vaccine that has been out for 70 plus years and is only 40-60% effective. Also all of a sudden a vaccine can be 90% effective after just 10 months of working on it? Why isn't the flu shot that good after 70 years? The vaccine isnt aimed at just you. Its aimed to try and stop the 2-3k deaths and rising per day. Just like masks you wear them to help the at risk people. A shot isn't going to kill you. |
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Post by thisplacesux on Dec 10, 2020 5:03:04 GMT -5
Why do I need a a shot when I have a 99.7% chance of survival if I do happen to get it. The vaccine is not guaranteed that you won't get it. Just like the flu vaccine vaccine that has been out for 70 plus years and is only 40-60% effective. Also all of a sudden a vaccine can be 90% effective after just 10 months of working on it? Why isn't the flu shot that good after 70 years? The vaccine isnt aimed at just you. Its aimed to try and stop the 2-3k deaths and rising per day. Just like masks you wear them to help the at risk people. A shot isn't going to kill you. If you and everyone else who’s scared to death of this virus gets the shot (that’s supposedly 90% effective) then you don’t have to worry about COVID being transmitted from me to you. |
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Post by beenaround on Dec 10, 2020 6:03:36 GMT -5
Well said! Very well said!!!!!
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 10, 2020 9:15:11 GMT -5
Plus if you’ve been following this the % numbers are slowly dropping and more unknowns are coming to surface.So far it’s NOW 70% effective an if you have severe allergies do not take it ,and if you’re pregnant do not take it.They don’t know shit .Just HOPING it works and CASH in on it.
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Post by bshopbshop on Dec 10, 2020 13:24:01 GMT -5
So funny to read these conversations! Keep going it's hilarious.
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Post by oldhand on Dec 10, 2020 16:50:30 GMT -5
I find these conversations horrifying. They are examples of the thinking that has made the U.S.A the world's COVID-19 dumpster fire. Don't even think about taking a European vacation anytime soon. The rest of the civilized world is viewing the U.S.A. with disbelief and disgust.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 10, 2020 18:42:55 GMT -5
Good maybe we can quit giving them handouts!
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Post by thisplacesux on Dec 10, 2020 18:57:34 GMT -5
I find these conversations horrifying. They are examples of the thinking that has made the U.S.A the world's COVID-19 dumpster fire. Don't even think about taking a European vacation anytime soon. The rest of the civilized world is viewing the U.S.A. with disbelief and disgust. Move to Europe then... |
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Post by oldhand on Dec 10, 2020 19:08:14 GMT -5
Proud of ignorance and fear, eh? Another example of why the U.S.A. is the world's COVID-19 dumpster fire.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 10, 2020 20:22:08 GMT -5
I would move to Britain if I felt that way.Also did you know that 380,000-400,000 people aged 65 and over die EVERY year?Thats any normal year not pandemic numbers.
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Post by oldhand on Dec 10, 2020 20:54:36 GMT -5
Well now... the fact is that I am eligible for Irish citizenship. So I could have dual U.S./Irish citizenship and thereby be eligible to emmigrate.
But at the moment the point is mute since no one from the U.S. is welcome. Guess why?
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 10, 2020 21:34:56 GMT -5
Be awesome if we felt that way about all the freeloaders we let in.
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Post by nra4life on Dec 10, 2020 22:31:22 GMT -5
Proud of ignorance and fear, eh? Another example of why the U.S.A. is the world's COVID-19 dumpster fire. Imagining giving a shit what someone else thinks not to mention a whole country. Guessing they still have us on speed dial if/when they need big brother to take care of the next bully on the block. Stay safe people |
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Post by oldhand on Dec 11, 2020 6:32:55 GMT -5
The first U.S. COVID-19 deaths occurred last February. Over the next 11 months more Americans died of COVID-19 than died in combat between December 7, 1941 and August 15, 1945.
MAGA.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2020 7:36:41 GMT -5
So?You really think Trump could of done something?What?History was made with Operation Warp Speed.A virus the WORLD has never seen before yet Trump could of stopped it??WTF ?Youre very delusional. Sheep .Follow your delusional,demented leader.NOT MY PRESIDENT
BABA!
Break
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Post by oldhand on Dec 11, 2020 19:33:35 GMT -5
So? You really think Trump could of done something? What? Yes. He could have encouraged Americans to social distance, avoid crowds, wear masks properly when they must be around other people, backed up his COVID-19 medical professionals, and taken the lead in setting a good example and ordering his subordinates to do the same. In other words, he could had LED. But all that is completely contrary to his nature, of course. MAGA. |
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Post by cthulhu on Dec 11, 2020 19:34:04 GMT -5
The first U.S. COVID-19 deaths occurred last February. Over the next 11 months more Americans died of COVID-19 than died in combat between December 7, 1941 and August 15, 1945. MAGA. You might want to recheck your numbers, our combat losses were approximately 292,000 combat deaths and a total of about 400,000 military losses from all causes. On a side note, One interesting detail missing from the news is a lack of numbers on Influenza cases or Influenza deaths this year. We normally lose about 45-60 thousand people a year from the Flu. The media has an agenda and that agenda will be used to manipulate people. |
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Post by oldhand on Dec 11, 2020 19:43:50 GMT -5
The first U.S. COVID-19 deaths occurred last February. Over the next 11 months more Americans died of COVID-19 than died in combat between December 7, 1941 and August 15, 1945. MAGA. You might want to recheck your numbers, our combat losses were approximately 292,000 combat deaths .... My numbers are correct. As are yours. I said combat deaths. Officially there were 291,557 American combat deaths in WWII. A four year conflict. As of December 11, 293,378 Americans have died of COVID-19. The number is expected to top 300,000 by the first of the year. And well over 300,000 by February (12 months after the first recorded U.S. Covid-19 deaths). Going by the highest end of the range of annual deaths due to Flu (60,000), COVID-19 has been 4.88 times deadlier. And counting... it has only been 10 months since the first coronavirus deaths. In 12 months it will prove to be some 5 times deadlier than the Flu on an annual basis. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Dec 11, 2020 19:48:00 GMT -5
So? You really think Trump could of done something? What? Yes. He could have encouraged Americans to social distance, avoid crowds, wear masks properly when they must be around other people, backed up his COVID-19 medical professionals, and taken the lead in setting a good example and ordering his subordinates to do the same. In other words, he could had LED. But all that is completely contrary to his nature, of course. MAGA. Led?HAHAHAThats funny .No matter what he did DA Libs would be against him.The media would of called him crazy.He did a AWESOME JOB THE WHOLE 4 yrs.Def got screwed over in the election .He didn’t want to wear a mask .It’s his right.You can though .It’s America land of the free.Wait til 2023 and send me a response.Dildo Biden will make us a laughing stock.Now they wanna pay Moms for being a housewife 2400$ a month???50,000$ student loan forgiveness,do away with fossil fuel.etc..Going to be expanded taxes .BABA |
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Post by oldhand on Dec 11, 2020 19:54:25 GMT -5
WTF ?Youre very delusional. Sheep .Follow your delusional,demented leader.NOT MY PRESIDENT BABA! Break Americans Backs Again By the way, one does not have to be a Joe Biden supporter to recognize Donald Trump as being a narcissistic, incompetent, horses ass. |
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Post by oldhand on Dec 11, 2020 19:56:32 GMT -5
Yes. He could have encouraged Americans to social distance, avoid crowds, wear masks properly when they must be around other people, backed up his COVID-19 medical professionals, and taken the lead in setting a good example and ordering his subordinates to do the same. In other words, he could had LED. But all that is completely contrary to his nature, of course. MAGA. Led?HAHAHAThats funny .No matter what he did DA Libs would be against him.The media would of called him crazy.He did a AWESOME JOB THE WHOLE 4 yrs.Def got screwed over in the election .He didn’t want to wear a mask .It’s his right.You can though .It’s America land of the free.Wait til 2023 and send me a response.Dildo Biden will make us a laughing stock.Now they wanna pay Moms for being a housewife 2400$ a month???50,000$ student loan forgiveness,do away with fossil fuel.etc..Going to be expanded taxes .BABA covfefe The poor dear lost the election by a margin that he claimed to be a landslide in 2016. He got screwed because the majority of Americans became fed up with his act. By the way, this afternoon the U.S. Supreme Court dismissed the silly Texas lawsuit requesting that the court overturn the election results. So much losing. |
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