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Post by ackspac on Jan 26, 2010 14:16:02 GMT -5
Herb asked me to start this thread about the misconceptions that the C-J printed this morning about those of us on ILO losing our callback rights if we turn down the job offer to Chicago. So tune back in around 8pm and he will be here to answer any other questions as well.
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Post by rudedawg on Jan 26, 2010 18:22:55 GMT -5
Does Ford have discount Cub tickets for sale during the season?
How many people are laid off throughout Ford that can sign up to go to Chicago, and will it have any effect on us returning?
Heard on the news that they currently have people laid off in Chicago.
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 18:25:36 GMT -5
Hey herb just wondering if we get called to transfer when would it probably happen?
When the new product is starting to be built at louisville how will they call back employees and will that effect anyone who goes to Chicago differently than those who choice not to go to chicago?
Heard something about volunteering to go ?
Just wondering what your guess is that they will call us back with low sen. to louisville for the new product.? I know the production wont be until around nov. 2011 but I heard there will probably be 1 shift before that. So do you think it will be before 2012 or in one of the quarters after. I know sells determine most of this so it is just a guess. Just need a date or time to look forward to.
Thanks again Herb for answering questions and being here to help us.
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Post by madman on Jan 26, 2010 19:15:56 GMT -5
Herb thanks for clearing this crap up,I have s ome questions. 1. If I get called to go anywhere out of zone can I bump someone with less seniority at Ktp? 2. Does voluntarily be asked to go to chicago qualifiy bumping someone or does it have to be a case that would cause me to loose benefits? thanks
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 19:56:23 GMT -5
Rude dog,
I am not aware of any discounts for Cub, sorry.
There are less than 400 people laid off around the Ford system. Chicago does not have anyone laid off. The entire second shift was temporaries so when they eliminated the second shift, no UAW/Ford employees would be effected.
Herb BC
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Post by ilomisery on Jan 26, 2010 19:58:37 GMT -5
Herb, Do the ILO employees have to go to Chicago or lose their job?
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 20:02:00 GMT -5
from what im hearing were not going to lose our job if u dont go, im goin if they ask. i love work, and paychecks!!!!!!!!
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Post by ilomisery on Jan 26, 2010 20:05:10 GMT -5
I agree I love work and paychecks also....just not sure about the work enviroment up there.
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Post by forker on Jan 26, 2010 20:05:37 GMT -5
Do I lose TAP if I d not go to Chicago?
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:08:34 GMT -5
Hey herb just wondering if we get called to transfer when would it probably happen? We are hearing that if anything definately is going to happen, then Chicago will need people by april or May because they want the nightshift in place by June. When the new product is starting to be built at louisville how will they call back employees and will that effect anyone who goes to Chicago differently than those who choice not to go to chicago? Everyone will be notified ahead of time, either by phone or mail, besides our web page and this site. It will not matter where you are not unless you take the big moving allowance in which case you give up your right to call lap your home. Heard something about volunteering to go ? Chicago will have to post for volunteers first, then go to forcing laid-off workers around the country by low seniority. Just wondering what your guess is that they will call us back with low sen. to louisville for the new product.? I know the production wont be until around nov. 2011 but I heard there will probably be 1 shift before that. So do you think it will be before 2012 or in one of the quarters after. I know sells determine most of this so it is just a guess. Just need a date or time to look forward to. LIke you said this is a guess, I am guessing Final area will be called around Aug. or Sept, classifications will be brought in sooner. Body and Paint are to have tooling tryout builds around April or may. This is all tentative. Thanks again Herb for answering questions and being here to help us. |
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:12:06 GMT -5
Herb thanks for clearing this crap up,I have s ome questions. 1. If I get called to go anywhere out of zone can I bump someone with less seniority at Ktp? 2. Does voluntarily be asked to go to chicago qualifiy bumping someone or does it have to be a case that would cause me to loose benefits? thanks 1) Yes, if you get forced to make a decision, to have to go out of Zone. Then you will have three options. Accept, Decline and loose pay and benefits, Decline and roll to KTP, if you have the seniority on someone currently working. Then the KTP person will have only two decisions above. 2) You have to be forced to choose, to bump Herb BC |
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:14:45 GMT -5
Herb, Do the ILO employees have to go to Chicago or lose their job? No they do not. If you choose to say no to go to Chicago and can not roll anyone at KTP, then you will loose the rest of your SUB or TAP, plus the insurance you have left. You will have recall rights to LAP as long as the number of years you have seniority, or 18months, which ever is greater, so you are all good. Herb BC |
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Post by drew1980 on Jan 26, 2010 20:16:23 GMT -5
ilomisrey, the work enviroment might be different. but hey thats fine! were lookin at year of work. i can deal
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:17:43 GMT -5
I agree I love work and paychecks also....just not sure about the work enviroment up there. I have had the opportunity to go to Chicago and the people were great, just like LAP. The funny part was they have a 3 story escalator that takes you up and over railroad tracks and you have to take a tunnel over to the plant and walk down 3 stories of steps. I was like you got to be kidding me. Herb BC |
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:18:51 GMT -5
Do I lose TAP if I d not go to Chicago? Yes, you will loose your Tap if you choose not to get forced to Chicago. Herb BC |
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Post by rudedawg on Jan 26, 2010 20:21:17 GMT -5
Herb, if we go do we get any money for expenses?
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:21:25 GMT -5
ilomisrey, the work enviroment might be different. but hey thats fine! were lookin at year of work. i can deal We will try and coordinate who all is going to Chicago and I have a couple of contacts up there and will be willing to get ahold of them and try to hook everyone up with apartments or a house several people could share. It is only a 6 hour drive depending on the weather. I would suggest that you live in IN and drive over to Chicago. Herb BC |
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Post by lucero on Jan 26, 2010 20:23:45 GMT -5
Herb, what are the options if we decide to go to chicago and want to come back to LAP when the retool is done? Im on ILO and want to come back but am willing to go to chicago for a while. Thanks
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:25:24 GMT -5
Herb, if we go do we get any money for expenses? You will be eligible for the $4800 allowance with keeping your recall rights to LAP. You will be eligible for the $30000, if you want to give up your rights to return to LAP. Herb BC |
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Post by lucero on Jan 26, 2010 20:27:20 GMT -5
with the 4800, is there any stipulations on how long you must stay there?
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:29:01 GMT -5
Herb, what are the options if we decide to go to chicago and want to come back to LAP when the retool is done? Im on ILO and want to come back but am willing to go to chicago for a while. Thanks I would hope that anyone that has not found a good job and is struggling to get by, take this job to Chicago and make some money for you family. When LAP is ready to retool and rehire, you will be surveyed to return home and be here for the second shift and home. Herb BC |
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Post by ilomisery on Jan 26, 2010 20:29:09 GMT -5
Sorry for the questions Herb....but I am ILOMisery's other half. He is working and cannot ask the questions. If they can bump to KTP do they still have recall rights to LAP. Also, can he call you tomorrow at the union hall if I don't get all of the answers he needs?
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Post by bob2727 on Jan 26, 2010 20:30:09 GMT -5
herb how can I find out if I have seniority on someone at KTP
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Post by rudedawg on Jan 26, 2010 20:31:45 GMT -5
herb, got to go, just wanted to say thanks for giving up your time to answer our questions.
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 20:31:36 GMT -5
How can we get ktp senority list to see if we can bump or not
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:33:26 GMT -5
with the 4800, is there any stipulations on how long you must stay there? I do not think so. You have to show up on you start date and report for work. U can't quit or you get nothing from anywhere. Herb BC |
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:36:50 GMT -5
Sorry for the questions Herb....but I am ILOMisery's other half. He is working and cannot ask the questions. If they can bump to KTP do they still have recall rights to LAP. Also, can he call you tomorrow at the union hall if I don't get all of the answers he needs? If they get forced to make a decision, and he chooses to go to KTP and bump, then he still have recall rights to LAP just like the LAP people out there now. If anyone has any questions please feel free to call me at 364-3650 or the union office at 364-3654. Spouces are welcome to call, they are worried more than the employee sometimes. Herb BC |
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Post by sonofberl on Jan 26, 2010 20:37:59 GMT -5
If we choose not to go will we loose are unemployment? thanks again herb
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Post by jackshaft on Jan 26, 2010 20:38:01 GMT -5
herb when can we have a ilo meeting
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Post by herbhibbs on Jan 26, 2010 20:38:35 GMT -5
herb how can I find out if I have seniority on someone at KTP I have a KTP seniority list in the office, so call me tomorrow. I do know they have a few 2003 employees out there. Herb BC |
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