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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 16, 2019 15:21:14 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers.
1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both?
2- How many jobs per team?
3-What is line speed for trim and chassis?
4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis?
5- How many people does it take to run a shift?
Thanks in advance for any info.
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Jan 16, 2019 19:35:05 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. What is your SENORITY? |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 16, 2019 20:09:13 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. What is your SENORITY? Was merely looking for info not looking to get into a seniority argument! None of my questions pertained to seniority, was just trying to get some questions answered about how KTP is run. |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jan 16, 2019 20:20:53 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. What is your SENORITY? Why does it matter? Hes just looking for a few answers |
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Post by readyandaimedatyou on Jan 16, 2019 22:44:30 GMT -5
Why does it matter? Hes just looking for a few answers Just a question.... No big deal. LoL |
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Post by buckeyeinky on Jan 17, 2019 5:38:15 GMT -5
lol whats is your senority, that was the first question I was asked when I transferred to ktp 20 years ago. Most are still sour about it.
1 separate trim same chasis
2 not sure 10-?
3 no idea
4 ?
5 ?
good luck you wont be welcome here just like I wasnt
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Post by ktp99 on Jan 17, 2019 6:35:52 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. 1. Separate Trim, but 2 chassis lines 2. 12-14? 3. Chassis is 92 total, think Line 2-48,Line 1-44 4. Mass break 5. ? |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jan 17, 2019 7:16:19 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. 1. Separate Trim, but 2 chassis lines 2. 12-14? 3. Chassis is 92 total, think Line 2-48,Line 1-44 4. Mass break 5. ? So there is 2 flat tops with trucks going into roll test? |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jan 17, 2019 7:19:34 GMT -5
lol whats is your senority, that was the first question I was asked when I transferred to ktp 20 years ago. Most are still sour about it. 1 separate trim same chasis 2 not sure 10-? 3 no idea 4 ? 5 ? good luck you wont be welcome here just like I wasnt They will get over it in time. That's the 1st thing I was asked at DTP & LAP |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jan 17, 2019 7:24:15 GMT -5
lol whats is your senority, that was the first question I was asked when I transferred to ktp 20 years ago. Most are still sour about it. 1 separate trim same chasis 2 not sure 10-? 3 no idea 4 ? 5 ? good luck you wont be welcome here just like I wasnt They will get over it in time. That's the 1st thing I was asked at DTP & LAP Only thing Ive never understood was “Why can’t ktp transfer to lap”Especially since a lot of Lap guys want to be at ktp.Plus all the other trans plants BITCH about our union at ktp ?They say theirs was way tougher..But they come here anyway??Also remember the GENE SNYDER!!!Hahaha..Nightmare |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jan 17, 2019 7:54:04 GMT -5
They will get over it in time. That's the 1st thing I was asked at DTP & LAP Only thing Ive never understood was “Why can’t ktp transfer to lap”Especially since a lot of Lap guys want to be at ktp.Plus all the other trans plants BITCH about our union at ktp ?They say theirs was way tougher..But they come here anyway?? Not sure but its the same way at DTP. Bodyshop & the rest of the plants inside the Rouge are separate. I think the big difference between the unions is there is more "they can do that" at KTP being that it is a MOA plant. |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 17, 2019 8:27:23 GMT -5
Thanks for the answers!
Not really worried about being welcomed, I come for a job not coming to piss anyone off or hurt there feelings, but if that happens because someone comes for a job then so be in!
I come to pay bills and provide for my family just like everyone else that has been hired.( never met anyone that just works at Ford for the fun of it)
How many hours a day do y’all work?
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Post by beenaround on Jan 17, 2019 10:55:11 GMT -5
Hours worked are usually all dependent on 1) Number for the shift 2)Order bank # 3) Breakdown time. Not necessarily in that order.
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Post by beenaround on Jan 17, 2019 10:58:55 GMT -5
Only thing Ive never understood was “Why can’t ktp transfer to lap”Especially since a lot of Lap guys want to be at ktp.Plus all the other trans plants BITCH about our union at ktp ?They say theirs was way tougher..But they come here anyway?? Not sure but its the same way at DTP. Bodyshop & the rest of the plants inside the Rouge are separate. I think the big difference between the unions is there is more "they can do that" at KTP being that it is a MOA plant. Doesn't matter which plant you are from. Only thing that matters is you were hired by Ford Motor Company not by an individual plant. |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 17, 2019 11:01:50 GMT -5
Since SUV Trim is separate, do they work different hours than truck Trim?
Also if there is say downtime for SUV is whole plant down or just SUV side?
Just trying figure out how separate trim works and one chassis.
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Post by beenaround on Jan 17, 2019 11:30:51 GMT -5
Since SUV Trim is separate, do they work different hours than truck Trim? Also if there is say downtime for SUV is whole plant down or just SUV side? Just trying figure out how separate trim works and one chassis. 1} Yes 2} Just SUV now. |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 17, 2019 11:39:20 GMT -5
Are you saying SUV is down now?
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Post by beenaround on Jan 17, 2019 11:59:10 GMT -5
No. At one point certain areas at times would and could effect plant uptime.
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 17, 2019 12:15:57 GMT -5
No. At one point certain areas at times would and could effect plant uptime. Gotcha Sure appreciate the info. |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Jan 17, 2019 14:48:29 GMT -5
Thinking of transferring to KTP but can’t get any solid answers on some things, please honest answers. 1- How are area’s set up regarding the truck and SUV , is there a separate trim and chassis for both? 2- How many jobs per team? 3-What is line speed for trim and chassis? 4- Are you all on tag relief or mass relief in Trim and chassis? 5- How many people does it take to run a shift? Thanks in advance for any info. 1. Separate Trim, but 2 chassis lines 2. 12-14? 3. Chassis is 92 total, think Line 2-48,Line 1-44 4. Mass break 5. ? When you say 92 an hour in chassis does that mean the frame line runs 92 an hour? |
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Post by ktpbob on Jan 17, 2019 20:01:34 GMT -5
P=Super Duty U=SUV
P Body Shop
U Body Shop
Paint
Frame
Engine
Tire Room
Chassis 1- P
Chassis 2- P & U
5 Toe In lanes
7 Roll Test lanes
2 Cal lines
Stamping Plant
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Jan 17, 2019 20:14:29 GMT -5
How often do they post bid jobs?
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Post by ktp99 on Jan 18, 2019 6:34:41 GMT -5
1. Separate Trim, but 2 chassis lines 2. 12-14? 3. Chassis is 92 total, think Line 2-48,Line 1-44 4. Mass break 5. ? So there is 2 flat tops with trucks going into roll test? Yes 2 flat tops in chassis that runs to Toe In and then Rolls Test. Chassis 1 runs dually's, chassis cabs and single axle trucks. Chassis 2 runs Navigator, Expedition and single axle trucks. |
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Post by ktp99 on Jan 18, 2019 6:38:07 GMT -5
Both trim shops will run different line times. Yes they can shut down a trim shop if there is a problem. We have ran nothing but SUV's or Trucks for a week at a time. I'\m not sure about the engine line, but there are 2 chassis lines and frame lines.
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Post by remember1976 on Jan 18, 2019 8:10:21 GMT -5
5. As of March 26, 2018 KTP employed 8165 hourly employees (including 4095 in-progression & 411 TPT's). Subtract the 878 skilled trades and divide by 3 crews gives you 2,429 unskilled hourly workers to run each shift.
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Post by remember1976 on Jan 18, 2019 8:14:19 GMT -5
How often do they post bid jobs? Promotional bids are posted as openings become available. Sometimes weeks go by with no bids posted. Sometimes bids are posted for several weeks running. |
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Post by agslater on Jan 18, 2019 13:27:27 GMT -5
3- line speed....Superspeed.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Jan 18, 2019 15:56:22 GMT -5
5. As of March 26, 2018 KTP employed 8165 hourly employees (including 4095 in-progression & 411 TPT's). Subtract the 878 skilled trades and divide by 3 crews gives you 2,429 unskilled hourly workers to run each shift. Wow so almost half are new/in progression..Scary..Hopefully Ford wants to make it 80% and gives me a buyout this September |
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Post by agslater on Jan 19, 2019 2:36:47 GMT -5
5. As of March 26, 2018 KTP employed 8165 hourly employees (including 4095 in-progression & 411 TPT's). Subtract the 878 skilled trades and divide by 3 crews gives you 2,429 unskilled hourly workers to run each shift. Wow so almost half are new/in progression..Scary..Hopefully Ford wants to make it 80% and gives me a buyout this September Its sad. Ford brass is drowning in money from this plant. Speaking of which id love to dive into a pile of money. |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Jan 19, 2019 7:53:01 GMT -5
Thank your union for letting that happen. The same ones basically begging everyone not to jump ship in September.
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