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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Oct 17, 2019 17:03:25 GMT -5
And if you new hire idiots think Ford is gonna match the GM tentative agreement, yout nuts😂 They will low ball what GM agreed to, just watch. And like the gullible fools you are, you will still take the bait.
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Oct 17, 2019 17:37:29 GMT -5
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Post by harleycat77 on Oct 17, 2019 17:37:29 GMT -5
Fine by me,better GM deal with the strike then Ford,I could care less about retirees Thats just wrong. Retirees Lives Matter Cool story |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 17, 2019 17:40:00 GMT -5
Legacy gets screwed once again, 3% raises for 2 years, no cola. But hey, $9,000 signing bonus 😂 Hope this shit gets voted down |
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Oct 17, 2019 17:45:10 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 17, 2019 17:45:10 GMT -5
Amazing people will sell their soul for 11k, 7k if you take the cash. Remember OT after 8? Remember Saturday’s time & 1/2...even on AWS....remember double time Sundays?.....skilled trades & stamping working on Sundays for straight time now, don’t think it’s not coming to the whole plant. Contract is nothing but bonuses in my opinion Union sold them out to get everyone to top pay, which they should be, but those fucks are the ones that agreed to that in the first place. So the members strike for what should have been taken care of 4/8 years ago and they finally get it and it’s supposedly a win? Watch the profits these cunts rake in the next few years while people are happy with 11k over 4 years/10,000 hours you will work in those 4 years to get it. It’s basically 1.00 an hour except you don’t get OT on it.....if you can figure out a way to get OT. HOURLY PAY IS YOUR GOD PEOPLE!!!......and they couldn’t throw the retirees a $100 or a ducking T-shirt? Unreal greed Fine by me,better GM deal with the strike then Ford,I could care less about retirees You wouldn’t have a job with out retirees.Me neither.Youll prolly never make it at Ford.. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 17, 2019 18:01:57 GMT -5
Legacy gets screwed once again, 3% raises for 2 years, no cola. But hey, $9,000 signing bonus 😂 Hope this shit gets voted down Yeah but you legacy guys are outnumbered. If they drop in progression to 4 years and a plan for temps we will vote yes. Also it says by 2023 top pay will be $32.32... I know it's GM but metalman must be angry knowing that us inferior idiots will be making more than his 28 he loves talking about I’ve stated in the past I was for equal pay dildo.Not my fault you won’t get it.It will be funny when 2023 gets here and 1500 retire.Then they will hire 1500 temps and run their/your dick in the ground.Ill be on the beach😂😂😂😂 |
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Oct 17, 2019 19:11:34 GMT -5
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Post by ktpframe on Oct 17, 2019 19:11:34 GMT -5
Legacy gets screwed once again, 3% raises for 2 years, no cola. But hey, $9,000 signing bonus 😂 Hope this shit gets voted down Yeah but you legacy guys are outnumbered. If they drop in progression to 4 years and a plan for temps we will vote yes. Also it says by 2023 top pay will be $32.32... I know it's GM but metalman must be angry knowing that us inferior idiots will be making more than his 28 he loves talking about |
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Oct 17, 2019 19:15:38 GMT -5
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Post by ktpframe on Oct 17, 2019 19:15:38 GMT -5
Yeah they changed it to four year only if you get hired now. Any one with four years or more still have to wait out our 8 years this contract is shit for everyone. See the Summary of the Tentative Agreement at GM | UAW uaw.org/see-summary-tentative-agreement-gm/ |
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Oct 17, 2019 20:23:49 GMT -5
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Post by thereandback on Oct 17, 2019 20:23:49 GMT -5
Yeah they changed it to four year only if you get hired now. Any one with four years or more still have to wait out our 8 years this contract is shit for everyone. See the Summary of the Tentative Agreement at GM | UAW uaw.org/see-summary-tentative-agreement-gm/ good grief that new raise schedule chart is an eye crosser. |
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Oct 18, 2019 5:30:31 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 5:30:31 GMT -5
Yeah but you legacy guys are outnumbered. If they drop in progression to 4 years and a plan for temps we will vote yes. Also it says by 2023 top pay will be $32.32... I know it's GM but metalman must be angry knowing that us inferior idiots will be making more than his 28 he loves talking about I’ve stated in the past I was for equal pay dildo.Not my fault you won’t get it.It will be funny when 2023 gets here and 1500 retire.Then they will hire 1500 temps and run their/your dick in the ground.Ill be on the beach😂😂😂😂 Legacy Lives Matter Vote Yes |
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Oct 18, 2019 5:32:17 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 5:32:17 GMT -5
Yeah they changed it to four year only if you get hired now. Any one with four years or more still have to wait out our 8 years this contract is shit for everyone. See the Summary of the Tentative Agreement at GM | UAW uaw.org/see-summary-tentative-agreement-gm/ good grief that new raise schedule chart is an eye crosser. Best money you will ever make Take the deal What do you people expect To make per hour geezzz |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 5:33:50 GMT -5
Amazing people will sell their soul for 11k, 7k if you take the cash. Remember OT after 8? Remember Saturday’s time & 1/2...even on AWS....remember double time Sundays?.....skilled trades & stamping working on Sundays for straight time now, don’t think it’s not coming to the whole plant. Contract is nothing but bonuses in my opinion Union sold them out to get everyone to top pay, which they should be, but those fucks are the ones that agreed to that in the first place. So the members strike for what should have been taken care of 4/8 years ago and they finally get it and it’s supposedly a win? Watch the profits these cunts rake in the next few years while people are happy with 11k over 4 years/10,000 hours you will work in those 4 years to get it. It’s basically 1.00 an hour except you don’t get OT on it.....if you can figure out a way to get OT. HOURLY PAY IS YOUR GOD PEOPLE!!!......and they couldn’t throw the retirees a $100 or a ducking T-shirt? Unreal greed Fine by me,better GM deal with the strike then Ford,I could care less about retirees Retirees can work as a temp |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 6:30:27 GMT -5
All this complaining about GM contract
Nobody complains that KTP most likely has the lowest base hourly pay rate than any other Ford Assembly plant and we build the most profitable vehicles
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Oct 18, 2019 7:11:20 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 7:11:20 GMT -5
All this complaining about GM contract Nobody complains that KTP most likely has the lowest base hourly pay rate than any other Ford Assembly plant and we build the most profitable vehicles Really?How can a plant have different pay rates when we are all under ONE contract?Plus why do people FLOCK to KTP if it’s the lowest plant?Id stay at LAP,MAP,etc 👍🏼.If we get what GM is getting (if the pay rate is EQUAL)it will be my first yes.But I’m retiring before next contract ..Not sayin just sayin |
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Oct 18, 2019 7:16:58 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 7:16:58 GMT -5
Fine by me,better GM deal with the strike then Ford,I could care less about retirees Retirees can work as a temp Seriously,If I was Ford I would state these are TEMPORARY positions.Whats the argument?I mean there’s people out there that will work for 6-8 months and be tickled shitless.Then lay them off and hire another batch.You can’t make a Co hire a person.UNION should of never let TEMPS happen.Union leader told me years ago during a bitch session “We work for Ford not the UAW”.?I actually got rolled2 times while Temps on my team stayed on A crew?.Met a guy the other day that was retired from 2 jobs,he is working here til his wife retires.So he only wants 6-8 months. |
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Oct 18, 2019 8:11:03 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 8:11:03 GMT -5
All this complaining about GM contract Nobody complains that KTP most likely has the lowest base hourly pay rate than any other Ford Assembly plant and we build the most profitable vehicles Really?How can a plant have different pay rates when we are all under ONE contract?Plus why do people FLOCK to KTP if it’s the lowest plant?Id stay at LAP,MAP,etc 👍🏼.If we get what GM is getting (if the pay rate is EQUAL)it will be my first yes.But I’m retiring before next contract ..Not sayin just sayin Base pay at LAP is $29.96 KTP is $29.84 For production workers It’s because LAP has a Traditional working agreement and KTP has the MOA agreement You would be amazed at how different things are at different plants |
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Oct 18, 2019 8:11:52 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 8:11:52 GMT -5
Really?How can a plant have different pay rates when we are all under ONE contract?Plus why do people FLOCK to KTP if it’s the lowest plant?Id stay at LAP,MAP,etc 👍🏼.If we get what GM is getting (if the pay rate is EQUAL)it will be my first yes.But I’m retiring before next contract ..Not sayin just sayin Base pay at LAP is $29.96 KTP is $29.84 For production workers It’s because LAP has a Traditional working agreement and KTP has the MOA agreement You would be amazed at how different things are at different plants But we all make 30.51 ?Right? |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 8:14:53 GMT -5
Retirees can work as a temp Seriously,If I was Ford I would state these are TEMPORARY positions.Whats the argument?I mean there’s people out there that will work for 6-8 months and be tickled shitless.Then lay them off and hire another batch.You can’t make a Co hire a person.UNION should of never let TEMPS happen.Union leader told me years ago during a bitch session “We work for Ford not the UAW”.?I actually got rolled2 times while Temps on my team stayed on A crew?.Met a guy the other day that was retired from 2 jobs,he is working here til his wife retires.So he only wants 6-8 months. Very true I’m shocked at these temps that have been here 2 to 3 years and they act like they full time already just wait til they get hired they will get FMLA and only work 2 days a week I’ve never seen temps bitch so much about being told to do something That didn’t happen when I hired in |
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Oct 18, 2019 8:17:00 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 8:17:00 GMT -5
Base pay at LAP is $29.96 KTP is $29.84 For production workers It’s because LAP has a Traditional working agreement and KTP has the MOA agreement You would be amazed at how different things are at different plants But we all make 30.51 ?Right? Nope Only way you get a bump up in pay as a production worker is when you learn at least 4 jobs Like myself I know my job and I make $29.84 |
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Oct 18, 2019 9:52:30 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 9:52:30 GMT -5
But we all make 30.51 ?Right? Nope Only way you get a bump up in pay as a production worker is when you learn at least 4 jobs Like myself I know my job and I make $29.84 I mean when you are ARPED out |
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Oct 18, 2019 11:14:45 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 11:14:45 GMT -5
Nope Only way you get a bump up in pay as a production worker is when you learn at least 4 jobs Like myself I know my job and I make $29.84 I mean when you are ARPED out I’m talking base hourly rate not pay you get for learning jobs Base pay should be the same at all plants and it’s not When I transferred to Kentucky from Michigan I lost about 50 cents an hour now come to KTP lose more The union has sold the membership out here but if you have never been to another plant you don’t realize it |
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Oct 18, 2019 11:52:46 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 11:52:46 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right?
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Oct 18, 2019 12:09:57 GMT -5
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Oct 18, 2019 12:09:57 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right? Shouldn't have to learn more jobs to top out. So basically everyone in the plant can be utility if they want more money |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 12:48:36 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right? At this plant your correct But at the plant in Michigan everyone made the same rate unless your bid job paid more and was under MOA also Union sold out the membership and helped the company with that ARPS pay bullshit The MOA should have been voted in with a raise for everyone not just for people who learn more jobs |
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Oct 18, 2019 12:51:22 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 12:51:22 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right? Basically you just have another tier system in place here |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 12:59:43 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right? I think your missing my point A base operator at KTP makes $29.84 A base operator at LAP makes $29.96 Leave that ARPS out of conversation cause has nothing to do with base hourly rate 12 cents difference and we are same local Just curious why base hourly rate is different |
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Oct 18, 2019 13:37:09 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 13:37:09 GMT -5
Ok.BUT if you learn jobs WE ALL make 30.51..Right? I think your missing my point A base operator at KTP makes $29.84 A base operator at LAP makes $29.96 Leave that ARPS out of conversation cause has nothing to do with base hourly rate 12 cents difference and we are same local Just curious why base hourly rate is different Totally agree.Dont get that?Still I’ve been ARPED out for 23yrs.Only time I lost it was when I had a bid job and had to learn all the jobs on new team/classification.Still easy tho.I have to ask why did you come here?Why not go back where the money is?Not being a smart Ass. |
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 13:44:26 GMT -5
I think your missing my point A base operator at KTP makes $29.84 A base operator at LAP makes $29.96 Leave that ARPS out of conversation cause has nothing to do with base hourly rate 12 cents difference and we are same local Just curious why base hourly rate is different Totally agree.Dont get that?Still I’ve been ARPED out for 23yrs.Only time I lost it was when I had a bid job and had to learn all the jobs on new team/classification.Still easy tho.I have to ask why did you come here?Why not go back where the money is?Not being a smart Ass. Michigan is not for me The South is where it is |
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Oct 18, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Oct 18, 2019 14:22:55 GMT -5
Totally agree.Dont get that?Still I’ve been ARPED out for 23yrs.Only time I lost it was when I had a bid job and had to learn all the jobs on new team/classification.Still easy tho.I have to ask why did you come here?Why not go back where the money is?Not being a smart Ass. Michigan is not for me The South is where it is On my check it says BASE 30.51 |
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Post by saugerman on Oct 18, 2019 14:42:32 GMT -5
Legacy gets screwed once again, 3% raises for 2 years, no cola. But hey, $9,000 signing bonus 😂 Hope this shit gets voted down Yeah but you legacy guys are outnumbered. If they drop in progression to 4 years and a plan for temps we will vote yes. Also it says by 2023 top pay will be $32.32... I know it's GM but metalman must be angry knowing that us inferior idiots will be making more than his 28 he loves talking about Damn dude either get back on you meds or quit tidepod eating...your getting to be a royal douche |
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Oct 18, 2019 18:45:29 GMT -5
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Post by plantworker2019 on Oct 18, 2019 18:45:29 GMT -5
Michigan is not for me The South is where it is On my check it says BASE 30.51 You must be Full ARP |
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