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Post by lap65 on Nov 9, 2019 16:45:47 GMT -5
This is gonna be a yes easy. I wqs thinking it would be close but not anymore. The updated votes are a big yes lean Maybe..... But most of the big plants haven't even voted yet |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 9, 2019 16:48:31 GMT -5
I know what you're saying but people did lose their jobs permanently. No it didn't happen like what you're saying but it happened. People took buyouts and like I said thankfully the union was able to negotiate that. Fords workforce has reduced drastically from the early 2000's. You think they all retired or transferred? A lot of them took buyouts. Some of the higher seniority people could have transferred instead of taking the buyout but that would have just trickled down to forcing lower seniority people to taking a buyout.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 9, 2019 16:52:17 GMT -5
Sure thing 👊🏿..It’s a NO for me ..Like I stated we could tell our union we don’t want a DIME and Ford would still close the plants they want to close.Has ZERO to do with this contract
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 9, 2019 16:57:35 GMT -5
I'm glad to be a part of the KTP bubble brother, it's a yes for me
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 9, 2019 17:32:28 GMT -5
Sure thing 👊🏿..It’s a NO for me ..Like I stated we could tell our union we don’t want a DIME and Ford would still close the plants they want to close.Has ZERO to do with this contract You're right they will, maybe a contract can prolong the inevitable who knows. I'm like you I can retire in a few years if I want. I haven't decided yet on what I'm gonna do. When I do I won't look back at all this bullshit & my kids will never work here. |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 9, 2019 18:18:50 GMT -5
Glad to hear about kids.I told this temp the other day.”Get on your feet (he had a new baby) use them to get a trade or skill and get the F out of here”Always be in a shitty shift ,always have family trouble ,always hear BS while working ..
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 9, 2019 18:24:23 GMT -5
Google “what’s the average worker make per our”..Our UAW ford job is mediocre..They ruined it with this 2 tier shit.Its really not that good of a job.But I have 25 and I am glad I worked here because I’ve had a lot shitty ones
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Post by topcannon on Nov 10, 2019 3:25:52 GMT -5
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Post by topcannon on Nov 10, 2019 3:36:28 GMT -5
everyone is in it for what? What are you really voting yes for a quick check? It’s sad... that’s why no one fights for us when a majority don’t even fight for our selves. We shouldn’t settle for this when they can do and will do better. We just have to make them do better. An the comedians are all with them. They settled... because they knew it’d be that easy..
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Post by 2011tier2 on Nov 10, 2019 8:03:28 GMT -5
KCAP votes today. Gonna be a big opportunity to turn the tide either direction before we get the final say.
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Nov 10, 2019 8:23:31 GMT -5
KCAP votes today. Gonna be a big opportunity to turn the tide either direction before we get the final say. They voted it down in 2015, we'll see. |
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Post by ktpveteran6499 on Nov 10, 2019 8:27:54 GMT -5
Local 600 (Dearborn) are the one's that are going to screw us over imo.
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 10, 2019 8:36:56 GMT -5
For sure.Theyll get it pass like 2015 when we heard rumors of the union riding around collecting paper YES ballots in a box .Smmfh .Its a losing battle.Just look at what’s happening in our union now ?
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Post by saugerman on Nov 10, 2019 9:30:02 GMT -5
Yes! Not gonna get much better deal....who else pays only 3% of their healthcare costs??? Worst yet you might be holding a picket sign with no check coming in, with holidays around the corner! The contract date didn't get pulled out a a hat...knew it was coming...maybe if you were not over extended....another Corky |
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Post by saugerman on Nov 10, 2019 9:34:13 GMT -5
I'm glad to be a part of the KTP bubble brother, it's a yes for me For a while I could of swore you were talking about our contract...but after awhi!e all I hear is some sucking sounds |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 10, 2019 10:15:42 GMT -5
Betting he’s a Rep or insider 💵💵💵
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 10, 2019 13:47:33 GMT -5
Betting he’s a Rep or insider 💵💵💵 Me?.....far from it lol |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 10, 2019 13:50:20 GMT -5
Local 600 (Dearborn) are the one's that are going to screw us over imo. It's not gonna be a blowout No or Yes vote here. A lot of people saying they are voting yes. Last contract I don't know anyone that voted yes. Its different with this contract I know more people voting yes than no |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 10, 2019 14:29:53 GMT -5
It will pas because of the GLITCH.Im not mad for 11,700 $But I can’t do anything but vote .So later
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Post by classof9five on Nov 10, 2019 18:06:19 GMT -5
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 10, 2019 18:11:45 GMT -5
It’s a NOOOOOOOOOO for me |
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Post by 2011tier2 on Nov 11, 2019 7:06:51 GMT -5
Found vote results on KCAP webpage. No numbers/totals but only percentages.
Kansas City Local 249
Production : 55.45% YES
44.55% NO
Skilled Trades: 65.5% YES
34.5% NO
They have almost 7k folks in that local.
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Post by lap65 on Nov 11, 2019 10:13:53 GMT -5
Found vote results on KCAP webpage. No numbers/totals but only percentages. Kansas City Local 249 Production : 55.45% YES 44.55% NO Skilled Trades: 65.5% YES 34.5% NO They have almost 7k folks in that local. Actual numbers are on the googledocs site on page two of this thread |
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Post by deeznuts on Nov 11, 2019 14:19:47 GMT -5
Found vote results on KCAP webpage. No numbers/totals but only percentages. Kansas City Local 249 Production : 55.45% YES 44.55% NO Skilled Trades: 65.5% YES 34.5% NO They have almost 7k folks in that local. I DONT GET IT! How does only 1/2 the membership turn out to vote?? Same with the Chicago plant.... Do people really thing this is rigged to where whatever they vote its going to pass regardless🤨 Sad |
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 11, 2019 14:38:34 GMT -5
Found vote results on KCAP webpage. No numbers/totals but only percentages. Kansas City Local 249 Production : 55.45% YES 44.55% NO Skilled Trades: 65.5% YES 34.5% NO They have almost 7k folks in that local. I DONT GET IT! How does only 1/2 the membership turn out to vote?? Same with the Chicago plant.... Do people really thing this is rigged to where whatever they vote its going to pass regardless🤨 Sad Yeah I don't get it neither but its been the norm for years now. I'll be shocked if half of our local show to vote |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 11, 2019 14:53:17 GMT -5
I do actually believe it’s rigged to pass ,BUT I personally have never missed a vote..
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Post by nra4life on Nov 11, 2019 15:10:25 GMT -5
I DONT GET IT! How does only 1/2 the membership turn out to vote?? Same with the Chicago plant.... Do people really thing this is rigged to where whatever they vote its going to pass regardless🤨 Sad Yeah I don't get it neither but its been the norm for years now. I'll be shocked if half of our local show to vote By the time it gets to us there won’t be a need to vote. Unless the no votes are within 2500 our local won’t matter. Probably why it’s set up the way it is. You would have different outcomes if everyone voted the same day |
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 11, 2019 15:22:43 GMT -5
Exactly.Why wouldn’t we all vote at the same time/day.?
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Post by fordlapworker1993 on Nov 11, 2019 15:26:31 GMT -5
We're voting at the same time local 600 is,I think. 2 big locals right there but I think it will pass still. I actually think our local will pass it...barely tho
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Post by Ex-metalman on Nov 11, 2019 15:37:42 GMT -5
Right BUT we are not ALL voting on the same date.Thus results can be altered if need be.Just a thought due to the events that’s happening with our organization
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